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File:Adam tactical group.svg to Adam Tactical Group I can't because of protection. Zacharpolis (talk) 03:59, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- But what you can do, Zacharpolis, is explain on Talk:Adam Tactical Group why this should be added and more particularly how it is that this logo is your "own work". This should persuade somebody there who (unlike most people at the "teahouse") understands the issues involved. -- Hoary (talk) 08:10, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- So, Zacharpolis, you're not the copyright holder. Then start by correcting the mistakes on c:File:Adam tactical group.svg. Once you've done that, make your request on Talk:Adam Tactical Group. -- Hoary (talk) 12:04, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Why don't you wear suit? Zacharpolis (talk) 13:14, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hoary, don't ping me again. If you don't help. Zacharpolis (talk) 13:15, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- So, Zacharpolis, you're not the copyright holder. Then start by correcting the mistakes on c:File:Adam tactical group.svg. Once you've done that, make your request on Talk:Adam Tactical Group. -- Hoary (talk) 12:04, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
Recovery of a now-deleted article?

Hello all,
There is an article that was deleted and turned into a redirect, American Communist Party. It was decided to be deleted, with some information moved to the pages for History of the Communist Party USA and Jackson Hinkle. I am interested in salvaging the article and improving it to add it to the mainspace. Is there any way to find the article in any history or junk areas? Help would be appreciated. -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 16:07, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- This is the AfD discussion, by the way. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Communist Party -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 16:15, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- @PhoenixCaelestis: The content has been deleted so only an admin will be able to retrieve it. I suggest asking Ad Orientem, who closed the deletion discussion, on their talk page and presenting any evidence that we should have an article there. TSventon (talk) 16:38, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hi PhoenixCaelestis. The community concluded by an overwhelming consensus that the subject did not meet our standards for encyclopedic notability. This of course can change. But I would need at least some evidence that either the situation has changed or that there was evidence of notability that was missed in the discussion. If you can provide some concrete evidence of notability, I would consider restoring the article and moving it into draft space. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:54, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Nearly every other American political party has its own page, even ones that only exist in one state or ones that only lasted a handful of years in the 1800s. The ACP has an entry in Wikidata, and has been covered by several small media outlets. One member even won a seat in Orange County, Vermont. Yes, it hasn't been covered by, say, the New York Times or the Washington Post, but it's because there's simply no reason for large national news outlets to report on a frankly eccentric splinter group of a party that's over 100 years old. If you go digging, the information is there. Plus, when the article was initially made, it was pretty much day one of the party's creation and next to no information about it had been released. With lots of time having now passed, I feel it's enough to warrant an article for this political party. -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 20:36, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, @PhoenixCaelestis. I suggest you find three sources that clearly meet WP:42, and present them to @Ad Orientem. ColinFine (talk) 21:31, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Nearly every other American political party has its own page, even ones that only exist in one state or ones that only lasted a handful of years in the 1800s. The ACP has an entry in Wikidata, and has been covered by several small media outlets. One member even won a seat in Orange County, Vermont. Yes, it hasn't been covered by, say, the New York Times or the Washington Post, but it's because there's simply no reason for large national news outlets to report on a frankly eccentric splinter group of a party that's over 100 years old. If you go digging, the information is there. Plus, when the article was initially made, it was pretty much day one of the party's creation and next to no information about it had been released. With lots of time having now passed, I feel it's enough to warrant an article for this political party. -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 20:36, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- PhoenixCaelestis, most people reading this (including Ad Orientem and myself) have other priorities and interests. We're not going to go digging. How about you go digging, and here, in this thread, link to three reliable sources (all of them independent of the ACP) that deal with the ACP in some depth? -- Hoary (talk) 21:31, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- I've gone ahead and found five sources that I feel cover the party and meet WP:42.
- https://www.thefp.com/p/american-communist-party-maga
- https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2024/07/american-communist-party-launches-as-reconstitution-of-communist-party-usa-several-clubs-deny-inclusion-in-party-declaration/
- https://unitedworldint.com/36094-executive-chairman-of-the-american-communist-party-we-are-preparing-for-a-systemic-and-constitutional-crisis/
- https://www.repubblica.it/venerdi/2024/11/08/news/elezioni_usa_trump_comunista_vermont_viaggi_da_fermo-423605605/
- https://us.politsturm.com/the-essence-of-the-acp
- I was also unaware of this until now, but there is an entry for the party on the German Wikipedia. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Communist_Party
- Thanks, all. -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 21:47, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- @PhoenixCaelestis Ok. I am satisfied that there is enough coverage to justify restoring the article and moving it into draft space. I will send you a link once I've finished. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:12, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 22:17, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- @PhoenixCaelestis The page has been undeleted and moved to Draft:Communist Party USA. This is not an endorsement of the page or the claims to notability. But I think there is enough to justify recreation so it can be worked on in draft space. I suggest submitting it for review once you think it is ready. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:22, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Minor goof, it appears you draftified the full CPUSA article rather than the old ACP article. Just wanted to let you know in case you didn't realize. -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 22:28, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- I've cleaned up that goof. The restored draft is now at Draft:American Communist Party (2) (Draft:American Communist Party already existed). This feels like a total waste of admin time and effort given that. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:34, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Minor goof, it appears you draftified the full CPUSA article rather than the old ACP article. Just wanted to let you know in case you didn't realize. -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 22:28, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- @PhoenixCaelestis The page has been undeleted and moved to Draft:Communist Party USA. This is not an endorsement of the page or the claims to notability. But I think there is enough to justify recreation so it can be worked on in draft space. I suggest submitting it for review once you think it is ready. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:22, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 22:17, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @PhoenixCaelestis. de:American Communist Party has three non-independent sources, and one unreliable one that doesn't even mention the subject. It is therefore of little use in creating an English article. ColinFine (talk) 22:31, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- @PhoenixCaelestis Ok. I am satisfied that there is enough coverage to justify restoring the article and moving it into draft space. I will send you a link once I've finished. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:12, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hi PhoenixCaelestis. The community concluded by an overwhelming consensus that the subject did not meet our standards for encyclopedic notability. This of course can change. But I would need at least some evidence that either the situation has changed or that there was evidence of notability that was missed in the discussion. If you can provide some concrete evidence of notability, I would consider restoring the article and moving it into draft space. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:54, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- @PhoenixCaelestis: The content has been deleted so only an admin will be able to retrieve it. I suggest asking Ad Orientem, who closed the deletion discussion, on their talk page and presenting any evidence that we should have an article there. TSventon (talk) 16:38, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
PhoenixCaelestis, please see Draft:American Communist Party. -- Hoary (talk) 22:34, 3 March 2025 (UTC) Edit clash with Pppery (and possible misunderstanding); striking out. -- Hoary (talk) 22:38, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Actually Draft:American Communist Party (2). Draft:American Communist Party was a preexisting draft from 2024. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:36, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- If the ACP is described as being part of "the larger MAGA Communism movement", readers may appreciate an article on MAGA Communism that describes the latter as larger than a single "American political commentator and influencer". -- Hoary (talk) 22:50, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Odd views on the two wars (supports RU, opposes Israel). Aside from that, this discussion is finished. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 12:42, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
Table
Hi,
I just started this list List of Hungarian explorers. You can see the text alignment is "center". Do you have any idea how can I make the alignment as default to "left" but only in the description table? OrionNimrod (talk) 21:55, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- @OrionNimrod: I used {{Table alignment}}.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 22:55, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- PrimeHunter Thank you very much! OrionNimrod (talk) 22:59, 3 March 2025 (UTC)